The Seahorses
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| The Seahorses | |
|---|---|
 L-R: Stuart Fletcher, John Squire, Chris Helme, and Andy Watts | |
| Background information | |
| Origin | England |
| Genres | Alternative rock, indie rock,progressive rock |
| Years active | 1996–1999 |
| Labels | Geffen |
| Associated acts | The Stone Roses The Yards Rick Witter & The Dukes The Shining |
| Past members | |
| John Squire Stuart Fletcher Chris Helme Andy Watts Mal Scott Toby Drummond Mark Heaney | |
The Seahorses were an English rock band, formed in 1996 by guitarist John Squire, following his departure from The Stone Roses.
The band released one album, Do It Yourself (1997), and began work on a follow up, before splitting up due to musical differences during recording sessions in January 1999.
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Formed in 1996 following his departure from The Stone Roses, Squire first recruited bassistStuart Fletcher who he saw by chance at the Fibbers venue in York where he was drinking with his guitar tech Martin Herbet. Fletcher was playing in local covers band, The Blueflies as a last minute replacement for the bands regular bass player who had pulled out of the gig. He then auditioned two singers - Sean O'Brien, previously of Warrington band "The Steamboat Band"[1] and Chris Helme, who was spotted by a friend of Squire's guitar techbusking outside Woolworths in York. Following several auditions and the prompting of his manager, Squire eventually settled on Helme, despite being hesitant because he "closed his eyes when he sang and only folk singers do that".[2] And whilst Helme was a songwriter himself, Squire admitted early on that despite liking a couple of songs including Blinded By The Sun which he radically re-arranged for the album, "Yeah, he can write the odd tune but I don t really like them and it might be a problem later on if he wants to record them with the band".[3]
Squire rented a cottage in Coniston, Cumbria to write and rehearse with Helme and Fletcher in the summer of 1996. Several drummers were auditioned before finally recruitingAndy Watts, who had previously gigged with Fletcher and also knew Helme.[4] The delay in recruiting a drummer was due to Squire's desire to get a drummer who, like Reni, could also sing backing vocals. It had previously been rumoured that Reni was set to join the band.[5]
Just weeks after Watts joined, the band played secret warm up gigs in Buckley, Greenockand Lancaster,[6] before heading to North Hollywood to record with David Bowie and T. Rex producer Tony Visconti.
The band's debut album, Do it Yourself, was released in June 1997 on Geffen Records with whom Squire was still signed to following his departure from the Stone Roses, and received mixed reviews. One of the songs on the album, "Love Me and Leave Me", was co-written with Liam Gallagher of Oasis, with whom the band toured in 1997.
Shortly before the release of the single "Love Me And Leave Me", it was announced that drummer Andy Watts was leaving the group to spend more time with his family. Watts later claimed that he was actually asked to leave by the band's manager Steve Atherton at a meeting with the band's accountants, on behalf of the band, because they did not approve of the drummer's excessive behaviour on tour, and felt he did not fit in with the desired image for the band.
Watts was temporarily replaced by session player Mal Scott, who toured with the band throughout 1997 and played on the stand-alone Squire/Helme co-write single "You Can Talk To Me" in December 1997 and Toby Drummond.[7]
In 1998, the band began work on a follow up album with another new drummer, Mark Heaney. The band previewed several new songs during secret fan club gigs and festival appearances including "City in the Sky", "700 Horses", "Tombraid" and two Helme compositions "Won't Let You Fall" and "Moth".
The band entered Olympic Studios with producer David Bottrill in January 1999 to record the album, with the working titles of Minus Blueand Motocade, and things came to a head - the sessions were abandoned and the band split after Squire walked out of the studio and did not return.[9]
The band's split was officially announced on the 23 January 1999, with a press release citing musical differences.[10] A spokesman for the band later informed the NME that Squire had "become increasingly dissatisfied with the material being produced by Helme until it reached a point where their partnership was no longer possible".[11]
Despite having previewed fully formed songs including two of his own compositions, Helme would later claim in 2001 that his contributions were being ignored and that the songs the band were working on were "unfinished tunes with unfinished lyrics, and they're all John's songs". Squire commented at the time that "I'd say the ratio of songwriting is the same as before; Chris and I help each other out with songs, but we haven't done that many strict collaborations",[12] and sources close to the band confirmed that the band had worked on a number of his songs that were set to appear on the album.[10]
Helme admitted in 2011 that he had been unhappy with Squire writing the majority of the bands material and therefore picking up the majority of the bands publishing. He attempted to establish a solo career whilst still in the Seahorses, but claimed that the Seahorses' management informed him that they would sue him if he started touring playing his own material whilst still in the band. This subsequently led to trust issues between Helme and Squire, and Helme began drinking heavily and turning up for rehearsals "hung over and stinking" to the increasing irritation of Squire.[13]
Squire would later comment on his reasons for ending the band that "I thought, 'This sounds shit, we don't deserve to be in this place.' The band sounded complacent. I don't suppose it was anyone's fault. Maybe it got far too much attention for very little effort in the early stages, because of what I'd done in the past."[14]
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